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all right |
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welcome to today’s episode of |
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your daily scrum i’m professional scrum |
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trainer ryan ripley this gentleman over |
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here |
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is professional scrum trainer todd |
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miller that character in the back is |
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grogu what’s up grogan |
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he says howdy partner there we go howdy |
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partner today |
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uh this is the show that we hope brings |
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a lot of |
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insight and answers to your scrum |
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practices we take a lot of anti-patterns |
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we take a lot of questions we flip them |
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upside down |
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and help you do scrum a little bit |
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better and so today’s question todd is a |
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i think this is more of a kind of |
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informational one than more of a how-to |
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but it’s a question we get |
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especially in the leadership class but |
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this one comes up quite a bit |
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in uh i think the scrum master course as |
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well |
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what is the difference between agile and |
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scrum |
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um what do you think um so |
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i i think that uh if if i |
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may use my example of dogs right |
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and so if you think of a dog uh a dog is |
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a |
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type of animal right uh well there’s |
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different species of dogs |
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right so as we’ve all seen ginger in the |
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background who |
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maybe she’ll show up yes we’re talking |
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about this um |
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uh ginger is a great dane hound mix |
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right so and then you have uh different |
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types of dogs you have a |
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basset hound you have um you know a |
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golden retriever |
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so think of agile as a dog and think of |
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scrum as a type |
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right uh and i think that’s maybe a good |
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place to get this started uh |
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scrum is a agile framework right |
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there are other different kinds of |
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frameworks and methodologies and methods |
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that are considered to be agile scrum is |
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a type |
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of agile i’ll start with that what do |
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you think |
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yeah i i tend to agree with you todd i |
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think it i like the way you use the dog |
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analogy |
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agile is kind of like the umbrella i |
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like the umbrella but |
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i think the dog analogy works great too |
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and scrum and lean and kanban and |
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extreme programming and crystal and |
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and all of those other frameworks and |
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methodologies fall underneath |
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and so when we hear people using the |
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word agile and scrum interchangeably |
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that is |
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that is an incorrect use of the term |
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right i mean scrum is a framework |
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that is influenced in the by and that |
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follows |
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the four values and 12 principles of |
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agile |
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right maybe we should define agile real |
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quick |
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because i think that’s important too |
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because i think if you asked 12 agile |
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coaches |
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what uh agile means you’re gonna get 12 |
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different answers right |
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and so so for todd and i uh i think i’ll |
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speak for todd here he’ll correct me if |
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i’m wrong uh agile really is the |
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the four values and 12 principles that |
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you find in the manifesto of agile |
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software development |
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and that is where we base our that’s |
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where we ground our definition |
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right so any framework that we would |
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classify |
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as agile would have to follow the four |
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values and 12 principles |
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100 i couldn’t agree anymore yeah |
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and uh i i think that what’s interesting |
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about this |
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this whole thing is that when you hear |
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a company is doing agile or you walk in |
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just |
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and i have no contacts odds are that |
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what what you’re |
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what you were showing down there odds |
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are that there’s a there’s a mix |
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of what they’re doing right so scrum is |
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a framework and it has |
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um has 11 elements and three commitments |
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right so i guess you could argue 14 |
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elements i don’t know i’m just getting |
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technical |
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but uh but oftentimes you talk with a |
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team that’s |
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doing uh scrum using scrum and there’s |
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some |
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extreme programming stuff that they’re |
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doing oh yeah there’s some devops stuff |
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that they’re doing |
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there’s some kanban stuff that they are |
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doing right and there’s a little bit of |
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a blend in it |
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so i i think that um yeah uh all of |
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those though |
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uh like you said uh the four values and |
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twelve principles of the agile manifesto |
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um are uh are are kind of in line with |
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with with this melting pot of practices |
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that you may see in the teams |
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right yep and so the difference is clear |
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we hope that agile |
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is the the super set and scrum is one of |
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the many things that fall beneath |
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so let’s not use those words |
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interchangeably scrum is not agile |
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agile’s not scrum wait i didn’t say that |
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right but you know what i mean |
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right they are not the same they are not |
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they’re not synonyms |
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and so uh great question really |
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appreciate that from the listener i |
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think |
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todd i think we’ve covered this yeah |
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sounds good all right let’s switch it |
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over to the end screen here talk about |
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comments what do you think about the |
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difference between agile and scrum |
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did we get it right did we miss |
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something let us know what you think as |
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pose your questions to us who knows it |
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could end up |
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as a future video all right i think |
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that’s it for today go forward do good |
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things do some great scrum |
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and we will talk with you tomorrow |