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Web3

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To me, the must listen stuff about web3 are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA and this discussion.

Web3 appears to be a lot of things:

  • either a political agenda to
    • either make people have more control other their data
    • either remove control from the GAFAM,
    • either remove intermediaries between people and data,
  • or a technological stack of tools to run on P2P and used in “decentralized” mode with a way to check the data (signature),
  • some new approach to have a semantic web,
  • the combination of
    • decentralized web,
      • in which each individual can contribute by plugin per computer to the network of nodes.
    • blockchains,
    • linked data,
  • or the emergence of the collective realization that we should own our data after all, after 50 years of lobbying from open source enthusiasts and idealists like me (self service bias). Realization apparently triggered by the blockchain proof of concept.

In the blockchain, the web3 mindset is in the fact that everyone can plug per comptuter in the ecosystem to contribute to a system in which rules is written in the code.

web3 appears to be heavily related to decentralized system, then it shares some of its semantic issues (decentralized is a spectrum).

Also, some people try to link this to the earlier semantic web. People also forget that the technology won’t magically put the GAFAM out of the equation (see this discussion). It is often presented like a ideal stuff.

Also, while web is about http based stuff, the mains actors of web3 (blockchains, ipfs) etc are not built on http, hence web3 is definitely a shitty name. It is a domino definition.

  • http + static data = web1
  • web1 + write access = web2
  • web2 + control - http = web3 ?

Eventually, web3 would have been what our future selves will retrospectively have defined as web3.

the web 3.0 movement so well three is an inclusive set of protocols to provide building blocks for application makers these building blocks present a whole new way of creating applications things different from from the from the way that technologies are built today these technologies give users strong and verifiable guarantees about the information they’re receiving what information they are giving away and what they are paying and what they are receiving in return and this is I think one of my favorite lines consider web 3 to be an executable magna carta the foundation of the freedom of the individual against the arbitrary authority of the despot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

lot of the link data web ended up getting sucked into the major data monopolies so it turns out that you know the most successful linked data systems ended up powering the knowledge graph and the Facebook Open Graph and not really the amazing decentralized vision that Tim and that in hundreds of other people were working on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

if we squint at it web 1.0 was about linking content together across the internet all static stuff web 2.0 was about linking programs to that content and building rich dynamic applications across their devices and what’s going on now is that the relationship is getting inverted we’re linking content and programs directly to each other bypassing intermediary organizations removing intermediaries and gaining public verifiability so what 3.0 is turning centralized apps into decentralized protocols

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

so the internet is the wires and the connectivity protocols and the web is the web pages the web apps the websites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

the relationship is getting inverted we’re linking content and programs directly to each other bypassing intermediary organizations removing intermediaries and gaining public verifiability so what 3.0 is turning centralized apps into decentralized protocols

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

it enables fully autonomous applications things that will run whether or not you’re there to run them in the future that’s a very important property that no system in the past had all systems in the past had to be maintained by some organization by some group of people that cared about continuing to run this thing now you know how can that be how is it possible well very strong economic incentives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

Bitcoin kind of kicked open the peer-to-peer world again it thawed the peer-to-peer winter and they reminded everybody that we could build peer-to-peer decentralized systems

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

peer-to-peer couldn’t compete with centralized systems peer to peer couldn’t afford to pay people 24/7 to maintain infrastructure or to scale the infrastructure as needs arose but the economic models of blockchains enable you to do that and that’s extremely powerful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

the amazing thing about this whole smart contract system is that it’s the basis of a jurisdiction it’s a proto jurisdiction its computable law and it’s native to the Internet so extremely extremely powerful thing and I don’t think we’re even gonna tap the potential of that for many years to come

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

web 3 include trustless infrastructure things that you can use and trust without worrying that they might turn against you removing intermediaries so not having to trust the some party it’s not going to become a rent rent secure in the future and giving users power and ownership over their data identity security and transactions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

Tim and the entire link data semantic web world has a lot of the same goals it’s just that technology was different and the technology didn’t account for a lot of the things that we know how to account for and so there is some important unification here that could happen nothing that it will nothing that it ought to but it could happen and there’s a lot of people that care but the very same things that we care about just in very different ways and so I think that the centralized web movement and the blockchain movement and the link data movement are part of web 3 and web 3 is support should ought to support these three movements in their own their own goals the end of the day what is more linked than a blockchain really isn’t like the best definition of you know structured linked data that isn’t gonna go away ever isn’t that kind of fulfilling the vision of the link data world better than than a lot of the linked data systems out there so I hope that in the future we have a digital system and that takes into account our rights that takes into account how people use those systems and how potential problems might be created

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

build a great web 3 help builds secure systems think ahead about the things you’re building and make sure you don’t build something you’re gonna regret there’s a lot of people right now that really regret what they did with web 2 so make sure you don’t do that and build a bright future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

I hope that we have a trustless decentralized infrastructure that we can just use that we don’t have to worry that it’s manipulating us that we don’t have to worry is a massive vector for propaganda that we don’t have to worry might own us in the future or might stop existing how many services have you used that just disappeared so I want to build a permanent and stable feature with all of this tech and I think a lot of the people here do and to get there it’s gonna require a lot of cooperation and interoperability and building sane protocols going back to you know if you think back to that slide with a ton of different protocols there’s probably a lot of people there they’re replicating work that are doing the same thing over and over again and while competition can be useful sometimes spreading too thin we’ll just cause the movement to fail remember that these things take time if we go back to that hypertext thing you know we don’t want we don’t want to be like one of the first avenues here right like we want to be we want to be the last last line who’s gonna take a lot of cooperation and a lot of interrupts so I think take this as a challenge to think through the protocols and applications of your building and think about other parties and other groups that are building similar things and consider working with them and bringing them to some sort of shared ground build a standard with a shared protocol build a shared system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

kind of ironic there’s all kinds of centralization then we must have in order to decentralize

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l44z35vabvA

Web2 fait référence à la version d’Internet que la plupart d’entre nous connaissent aujourd’hui. Un Internet dominé par les sociétés qui fournissent des services en échange de vos données personnelles. Dans le contexte d’Ethereum, Web3 fait référence aux applications décentralisées qui s’exécutent sur la blockchain. Ce sont des applications qui permettent à quiconque de participer sans monétiser ses données personnelles

https://ethereum.org/fr/developers/docs/web2-vs-web3/

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

Quiconque sur le réseau a l’autorisation d’utiliser le service. En d’autres termes, aucune autorisation n’est requise.Personne ne peut vous bloquer ni vous refuser l’accès au service.Les paiements sont intégrés via le jeton natif, l’ether (ETH).Ethereum est “Turing-complet”, ce qui signifie que vous pouvez programmer à peu près tout ce que vous voulez.

https://ethereum.org/fr/developers/docs/web2-vs-web3/

Web2Web3Twitter peut censurer n’importe quel compte ou tweet.Les tweets Web3 ne pourraient pas être censurés, car le contrôle est décentralisé.Un service de paiement peut décider de ne pas autoriser les paiements pour certains types de travaux.Les applications de paiement Web3 ne requièrent aucune donnée personnelle et ne peuvent pas empêcher les paiements.Les serveurs des applications de travail à la tâche (ou gig-économie) pourraient fermer et affecter les revenus des travailleurs.Les serveurs Web3 ne peuvent pas fermer. Ils utilisent Ethereum, un réseau décentralisé de milliers d’ordinateurs, comme backend

https://ethereum.org/fr/developers/docs/web2-vs-web3/

Web3 a actuellement quelques limitations :Évolutivité : Les transactions sont plus lentes sur le Web3 car elles sont décentralisées. Les changements d’état, comme un paiement, doivent être traités par un mineur et propagés sur le réseau.UX : Interagir avec les applications Web3 peut nécessiter des étapes, des logiciels et des connaissances supplémentaires. Cela peut constituer un obstacle à son adoption.Coût : La plupart des DApps réussies publient de très petites portions de leur code sur la blockchain car c’est coûteux

https://ethereum.org/fr/developers/docs/web2-vs-web3/

en réalité, le degré de centralisation ou de décentralisation d’un réseau repose sur un spectre. Aucun réseau n’est entièrement centralisé ni entièrement décentralisé

https://ethereum.org/fr/developers/docs/web2-vs-web3/

All centralized networks face threats to their stability and security. Web3 came about because Web2 is not able to offer the security and stability we need. Securing fragile apps on a fragile base is a nonstarter: That’s why engineers and developers are focused on building and strengthening Web3, and why Protocol Labs supports their efforts.

https://blog.ipfs.io/2022-03-11-berty/

As a leader in Web3, Berty’s code is 100 percent open source. Anyone with the skills and mindset can build on or contribute to the codebase. No single person is ever in control. Instead, the integrity of Berty rests in the hands of its users

https://blog.ipfs.io/2022-03-11-berty/

recall web2.0 things. Three main things.

Frontend - Frontend is what the user sees and interacts with your application.

Backend - Backend is where we do all the business logic(secrets 👀).

Database - Where we store all the data.

https://hackernoon.com/a-high-level-introduction-to-web20-and-web30

https://hackernoon.com/a-high-level-introduction-to-web20-and-web30

https://hackernoon.com/a-high-level-introduction-to-web20-and-web30

Two main things.

Frontend - Same explanation as in web2.

Blockchain - A distributed network to store data. Here data is immutable - means once written it can’t be changed.

https://hackernoon.com/a-high-level-introduction-to-web20-and-web30

When you work with a bank […] the fact they have total control over this situation is proved by the fact that they can change your password or change the rules for your password on the fly.

https://a16z.simplecast.com/episodes/crypto-security-in-a-web3-world-the-new-mindsets-and-strategies-uQIYk_Ao

With crypto security, you can remove the relationship with the intermediary and have direct relationship with the protocol. […] it means that you can really own the thing. […] no one can revoke or interfere with your relationship with those tokens or those nfts, those assets, whatever.

https://a16z.simplecast.com/episodes/crypto-security-in-a-web3-world-the-new-mindsets-and-strategies-uQIYk_Ao

its terrifying because that means you are in charge of controlling the secrets that guard the access to your assets

https://a16z.simplecast.com/episodes/crypto-security-in-a-web3-world-the-new-mindsets-and-strategies-uQIYk_Ao

its terrifying because that means you are in charge of controlling the secrets that guard the access to your assets

https://a16z.simplecast.com/episodes/crypto-security-in-a-web3-world-the-new-mindsets-and-strategies-uQIYk_Ao

A lot of the crypto features have to be abstracted. That should not be alarming […] no one knows how credit cards work.

https://a16z.simplecast.com/episodes/crypto-security-in-a-web3-world-the-new-mindsets-and-strategies-uQIYk_Ao

How do people access facebook? […] They use a client that facebook controls […] that interface still does not control the underline information […]

you expand the space of people who can try their shot at an interface […] now anyone can make an interface […] the interface on crypto based application will end up being better because of this interoperaility

https://a16z.simplecast.com/episodes/crypto-security-in-a-web3-world-the-new-mindsets-and-strategies-uQIYk_Ao

Different security paradigm. More personal control along with more personal responsibilities

https://a16z.simplecast.com/episodes/crypto-security-in-a-web3-world-the-new-mindsets-and-strategies-uQIYk_Ao

Open the browser, click wallet connect and scan the qr code on my phone and it immediately shows me […] all of my things.

It shows […] how we are in a different security paradigm.

[…]

The machine is the window to look at our stuff.

https://a16z.simplecast.com/episodes/crypto-security-in-a-web3-world-the-new-mindsets-and-strategies-uQIYk_Ao

How can we trust it works? […]

So cool about the web3 way […] single interface for everyone else to plug in to as opposed to forcing everyone to recode their security system […] don’t run your own crypto.

https://a16z.simplecast.com/episodes/crypto-security-in-a-web3-world-the-new-mindsets-and-strategies-uQIYk_Ao

https://hackernoon.com/a-high-level-introduction-to-web20-and-web30

In web2, the client makes a request to the server and the server responds and gives back a response. Here in web3, there is something called nodes. So in order to talk to our smart contracts, we need to talk to these nodes. For that, we can use node providers like Alchemy, Infura etc… or set up your own node

https://hackernoon.com/a-high-level-introduction-to-web20-and-web30

Web 3.0 opens a new future where users and distributed machines can interact with data, value, and even other counterparties via peer-to-peer networks without the need for third parties

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

it could be web 2 based apis or web 3 or blockchain information and that allows that information to flow into the decentralized oracle network and then be placed on other blockchains and that data flow is is bi-directional

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFgWtJ8EARE

so from my point of view one of the most important thing that is preventing web 3 and the general adoption of the web 3 uh is actually a connection to a web 2 right so if you would think of a modern applications that are on the on the smartphones for example your banking application so when when it connects to the server when you’re doing the banking transaction it actually establishes a secure connection and what it means that there’s some kind of information that is digitally signed on your device because your device has a digital it has a key and and your device is able to calculate digital signatures right so uh doesn’t it feel very very familiar to the web3 world when you have your own key and you’re signing the stuff right the only difference is that web 2 users they’re not having meta mask they’re not having some kind of other wallets right and uh but but they have keys already every time when you see the green https it means that you have a key and you are using this key so i think that this this piece actually using the existing public key infrastructure that is already implemented in the real world of web 2 and having enabling the shift of this public infrastructure to the web3 world and allowing users to sign these transactions with their existing keys but making blockchains or making something in the middle this middleware piece and is actually going to transform this messages that are signed transform it into the blockchain transactions and making sure that users are owning their data they are owning their um you know value um this is a thing that is a little bit missing at the moment and in case this thing is going to be implemented it’s going to be you know a massive boom for the web 3 um and uh just a ginormous expansion of the web 3 into the web 2 world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFgWtJ8EARE

Web 1.0 refers roughly to the period from 1991 to 2004, where most websites were static webpages, and the vast majority of users were consumers, not producers, of content.[13][14] Web 2.0 is based around the idea of “the web as platform”[15] and centers on user-created content uploaded to social media and networking services, blogs, and wikis, among other services

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web3

Web3 is distinct from Tim Berners-Lee’s 1999 concept for a semantic web.[18] In 2006, Berners-Lee described the semantic web as a component of Web 3.0, which is different than the term Web3 in crypto context.[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web3

Web 1.0, the story goes, was the era of decentralized, open protocols, in which most online activity involved navigating to individual static webpages. Web 2.0, which we’re living through now, is the era of centralization, in which a huge share of communication and commerce takes place on closed platforms owned by a handful of super-powerful corporations—think Google, Facebook, Amazon—subject to the nominal control of centralized government regulators. Web3 is supposed to break the world free of that monopolistic control.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

most basic level, Web3 refers to a decentralized online ecosystem based on the blockchain.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

Platforms and apps built on Web3 won’t be owned by a central gatekeeper, but rather by users, who will earn their ownership stake by helping to develop and maintain those services.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

model for Web 2.0 was much the same as the model for society before the internet existed.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

handy elevator definition of Web3?“Less trust, more truth.”

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

particular meaning of trust that’s essentially faith. It’s the belief that something will happen, that the world will work in a certain way, without any real evidence or rational arguments as to why it will do that. So we want less of that, and we want more truth—which what I really mean is a greater reason to believe that our expectations will be met

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

Trust implies that you are you’re placing some sort of authority in somebody else, or in some organization, and they will be able to use this authority in some arbitrary way.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

As soon as it becomes credible trust, it’s not really trust anymore. There is a mechanism, a rationale, an argument, a logical mechanism—whatever— but in my mind, it’s not trust.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

what if WhatsApp introduced into their service a key that allowed them to decrypt all conversations? How do we know that it’s not there? You have to trust.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

we have is the blind trust that they are telling the truth.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

sounds like open source software would accomplish what you’re talking about,

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

degree of truth is necessary. And by this I mean openness, transparency

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

Blockchain technology uses both cryptography and certain game theory economics to deliver its service.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

is it really peer-to-peer or is it actually run from one data center by a company that manufactures and sells hardware and is required to be consulted before a new node can come online? The details make the difference as to whether it’s basically just Web 2.0 in disguise or whether it is actually legitimately open, transparent, decentralized, peer-to-peer

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

You don’t have to message on Facebook, it’s just convenient. So when we talk about centralization and decentralization, what does that mean?

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

In essence, it means I personally can become a provider or a co-provider of this overall service just as easily as anybody else in the world

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

hard to imagine anyone outside of a small subset of people with high technical literacy actually exercising that right to participate in providing the service. And in that scenario, it sounds like you would have a different kind of centralization. Perhaps it would be more than just, you know, a handful of all-powerful CEOs, but it would still be a small subset of people for whom that’s a meaningful freedom.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

big difference between having a right or a freedom that you could execute if you had bothered educating yourself well enough, and the inability at a very basic and fundamental level of doing something because you lack the inclusion in an exclusive group.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

wonder if that’s sort of a naive—forgive me—reading of social arrangements to think that everybody just kind of has the choice to go become an expert Web3 programmer?

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

Programming a machine actually only requires knowledge of a language that is reasonably straightforward to learn

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

I’m not going to try and persuade you that literally every person in the world could do this. But the point is that the more people that can do this, the lower the barrier, the better

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

“What would I be doing in a Web3 world?”

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

Web3 brings that Web 2.0 cannot easily service is financial obligations or economically strong applications. This is where individuals in a peer to peer fashion can have economic services between themselves.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

won’t companies built on Web3 still have the same market incentives as Web 2.0 companies?

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

never seen a technology that existed to limit one’s power

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

every technology that I can think of has served to make the user more powerful. They can do more stuff. They can be richer, they can fulfill the service that they provide faster or better or to more people.

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

Blockchain doesn’t do that. It’s fundamentally different. It’s effectively a social construct. It’s a set of rules. And the only thing that these rules have going for themselves is that there is no one with arbitrary power within the system

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

who are the people who are in power and those power structures usually transfer no matter what things are looking like, like, no matter if we change the web, and a lot of times when we try to like solve these very human problems with technology, we end up just making the situation worse, and I don’t see any convincing evidence yet that that’s not going to be the case with Web 3.0, or all this stuff.

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

Web3 will help support the liberal, postwar order. How do you see it doing that?

[…]

Web3 is actually much more of a larger sociopolitical movement that is moving away from arbitrary authorities into a much more rationally based liberal model

https://www.wired.com/story/web3-gavin-wood-interview/

peer-to-peer networks without the need for third parties.

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

websites and applications can process information intelligently, just like humans

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

ultimate goal of Web 3.0 is to create interconnected webs of thing

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

Web 3.0 will democratize the protection and control of user data because no company has the right to any user’s data.

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

Web 3.0’s data is distributed and stored at peripheral devices connected to the network, rather than creating a giant server controlled by any technology corporation

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

first version of the Internet was Web 1.0, where websites were primarily static (read-only) and broadcast and browse information

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

Web 2.0 is the web generation that most people are using today, where users can easily interact with the content on the website. It means that we can leave messages, comments, and chat right at the content we are reaching. This evolution has made communication on the Internet more straightforward than ever

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

power and control over user data will be concentrated entirely in Big Tech corporations.

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

Web 3.0 will expand capabilities to give users ownership of their content

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

Web 3.0’s peer-to-peer connectivity and decentralization have contributed to the complete elimination of intermediaries

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

people can communicate, transact and transfer value to each other on the Web 3.0 platform without going through a centralized organization

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

Because the third party is eliminated, no organization will control user data anymore.

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

content creators can become exclusive data owners instead of being dominated by Big Tech corporations

https://hackernoon.com/web-30-decentralizing-the-internet

data will be decentralized, which is a significant improvement over the present generation of the internet (Web 2.0), in which data is mostly held in centralized repositories

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

Internet users in the Web 1.0 era were mostly consumers of the material that other people had developed.

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

Web 2.0, made the internet a lot more interactiv

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

data can now be distributed and shared between various platforms and applications.

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

major flaw here is that all data is stored on a centralised server, controlled by the platforms.

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

In the Web 2,0 era, the users are the product.

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

Web 3.0 is the next stage of the web evolution that would make the internet more intelligent or process information with near-human-like intelligence through the power of AI systems that could run smart programs to assist users

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

Web 3.0 aims to create a decentralized and secured Internet, where the users can safely and securely exchange information and money, without the need for any middlemen or Big Tech companies

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

Web 3.0 applications runs on decentralized networks like blockchain or peer-to-peer servers.

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

systems enable the data and its processing to not be held by a single party.

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

For instance, if you were to host a blog the old-fashioned way, you would put up a server and publish to the Internet. Nowadays, your blog would be hosted on a platform like WordPress, Ghost, Notion, or even Twitter. If these companies were to have an outage, this affects a lot more people. In a distributed fashion, via IPFS for instance, your blog content can be hosted and served from multiple locations operated by different entities.

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

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https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

Web 3.0 simply takes this a step further by making the internet accessible to everyone anywhere, at any time. At some point, internet-connected devices will no longer be concentrated on computers and smartphones like in Web 2.0 since IoT (Internet of Things) technology will bring forth a plethora of new types of smart devices.

https://hackernoon.com/what-is-web30-explaining-the-future-of-the-internet

web3 is:VerifiableTrustlessSelf-governingPermissionlessDistributed and robustStatefulNative built-in payments

https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/what-is-web3/

web3 applications either run on blockchains, decentralized networks of many peer to peer nodes (servers), or a combination of the two that forms a cryptoeconomic protocol. These apps are often referred to as dapps (decentralized apps), and you will see that term used often in the web3 space

https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/what-is-web3/

cryptocurrency is often part of the conversation. This is because cryptocurrency plays a big role in many of these protocols. It provides a financial incentive (tokens) for anyone who wants to participate in creating, governing, contributing to, or improving one of the projects themselves.

https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/what-is-web3/

Consumers of the service usually pay to use the protocol, similarly to how they would pay a cloud provider like AWS today. Except in web3, the money goes directly to the network participants.

https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/what-is-web3/

like in many forms of decentralization, you’ll see that unnecessary and often inefficient intermediaries are cut out.

https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/what-is-web3/

Comme l’accès à l’information en ligne du Web 1.0, puis l’interactivité du Web 2.0, la décentralisation au cœur du Web 3.0 peut changer radicalement notre façon de vivre l’Internet et, plus largement, notre économie. Se dressant face aux GAFAM, cette nouvelle itération du Web pourrait être une révolution

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

Mais y sommes-nous seulement prêts ? Pas certain, lorsque l’on constate que, ni les Facebook Papers, ni l’annonce tonitruante de Facebook sur le Métavers, n’a eu d’effet notable sur la recherche « Facebook » dans Google. Le pic de recherche du 4 octobre ? C’était le jour où Facebook était… en panne

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

Dans ce thread Twitter, vous en trouverez un résumé très pertinent.

« Web3 = Web 2.0 + decentralization : Web3 is anything you currently use in the internet and decentralizing it »

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

Sans trop s’avancer, on peut également dire que les clés de la compréhension du Web 3.0 résident dans les concepts de décentralisation et de transfert de valeur. C’est en tout cas l’objectif poursuivi par ses défenseurs : associer leurs efforts aux innovations technologiques pour réduire l’hégémonie des GAFAM sur notre vie numérique.

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

1989, Tim Berners-Lee avait imaginé Internet comme une plateforme ouverte. La mission que se donne le Web 3.0 est de réaliser cette vision d’un Internet plus ouvert, grâce à la décentralisation.

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

redonner à ses utilisateurs le contrôle et la propriété de leurs données, en retirant de l’équation les intermédiaires.

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

redonner le pouvoir aux utilisateurs, de leur permettre de capter leur propre valeur en ligne, alors qu’aujourd’hui cette valeur est captée par les plateformes

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

Décentralisation : Ce n’est pas une autorité centrale qui le contrôle, mais les personnes qui l’utilisent elles-mêmes.

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

Pour attaquer un protocole Web 3.0, il faudrait attaquer, en même temps, tous les ordinateurs qui composent le réseau. C’est quasiment impossible. Si un ou plusieurs nœuds du réseau est attaqué, les autres nœuds continuent de fonctionner normalement

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

Liberté : une publication sur le Web 3.0 est inaltérable. Personne ne peut la retirer. Dans le Web 2.0, chaque plateforme peut bannir un utilisateur ou censurer un contenu comme il l’entend. Nuançons tout de même, car la liberté octroyée par le web 3.0 pose de nombreuses questions sur le plan éthique. Dès lors, comment lutter contre les discriminations ou la haine en ligne ?

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

chacun possède ses propres données et partage ce qu’il souhaite.

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

pas besoin de divulguer d’informations personnelles, même pour réaliser une transaction financière.

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

révolution du Web 3.0 réside ni dans les technologies qu’il utilise, ni dans les fonctionnements qu’il adopte. Ce ne sont là que des moyens. En réalité, la révolution réside dans la distribution de la valeur. Cette valeur qui, en s’affranchissant des intermédiaires, passe directement des créateurs aux utilisateurs. C’est le circuit-court appliqué au Web.

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

produire un Web décentralisé et équitable, où les utilisateurs contrôlent leurs données et leur identité ».

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

liberté absolue et l’anonymat peuvent également faire craindre nombre de dérives – des propos extrémistes aux transactions illégales en passant par le blanchiment d’argent sale.

https://mbamci.com/web3-futur-internet/

Web3 est l’internet de troisième génération, basé sur les nouvelles technologies comme la Blockchain et le métavers. Son principal avantage est la décentralisation, à l’inverse du web actuel dominé par les GAFAM

https://www.lebigdata.fr/web3-tout-savoir

potentielle nouvelle itération d’internet, basé sur la blockchain publique.

https://www.lebigdata.fr/web3-tout-savoir

L’avantage du Web3 serait sa décentralisation. Plutôt que d’accéder à internet via les services de géants comme Apple, Google ou Facebook, les individus pourraient contrôler et posséder eux-mêmes la toile.

https://www.lebigdata.fr/web3-tout-savoir

plus d’intermédiaire pour les transactions

https://www.lebigdata.fr/web3-tout-savoir

confidentialité des internautes serait mieux protégée, car ces intermédiaires et les autorités sont à la source d’une majeure partie de la collection des données.

https://www.lebigdata.fr/web3-tout-savoir

plusieurs grandes entreprises et investisseurs placent déjà de larges sommes dans le Web3. On peut donc craindre une forme de pouvoir centralisé régnant malgré tout sur cette nouvelle version d’internet

https://www.lebigdata.fr/web3-tout-savoir

terme de Web3 ou Web 3.0 fut inventé par Gavin Wood en 2014.

https://www.lebigdata.fr/web3-tout-savoir

DAO sont au coeur du Web3 et utilisent des tokens pour rendre la propriété et le pouvoir de prise de décision plus équitables

https://www.lebigdata.fr/web3-tout-savoir

sceptiques estiment que les promesses du Web3 comme l’architecture distribuée et la décentralisation seront plus simples à atteindre sans la blockchain.

https://www.lebigdata.fr/web3-tout-savoir

selon Ten Oever, «  si vous créez une architecture distribuée sur une infrastructure centralisée, vous ne décentralisez pas soudainement l’infrastructure « . Ainsi, même si l’infrastructure est théoriquement décentralisée, en pratique, la plupart de l’internet repose toujours sur des serveurs hébergés par une poignée d’entreprises comme Amazon.

https://www.lebigdata.fr/web3-tout-savoir

il n’est plus simplement question d’interagir, mais bien de transformer l’internaute en chaînon de l’internet mondial

https://www.journaldugeek.com/2022/02/22/web3-linternet-du-futur-est-deja-la-mais-cest-quoi/

Concrètement, il s’agirait de supprimer les grandes entreprises tech, en reconstruisant le Web à partir d’une blockchain.

https://www.journaldugeek.com/2022/02/22/web3-linternet-du-futur-est-deja-la-mais-cest-quoi/

distributed networks of computers that no single entity owns or controls.

https://qz.com/2112965/web3-is-not-decentralized/

Wood wrote in a blog post that the Web should move toward a “zero-trust interaction system [where] all interactions will be carried out pseudonymously, securely and for many services, trustlessly.”

https://qz.com/2112965/web3-is-not-decentralized/

Ultimately, he imagined Web 3.0 as the “Secure Social Operating System.”

https://qz.com/2112965/web3-is-not-decentralized/

outages are less likely because software does not rely on centralized servers, like Twitter running on Amazon Web Services servers

https://qz.com/2112965/web3-is-not-decentralized/

  • Bad faith. Aws and others allow pretty good recundency against outage

Many activities that make blockchain-based activity on the web possible depend on a handful of private, centralized companies. “So much work, energy, and time has gone into creating a trustless distributed consensus mechanism,” Marlinspike wrote, “but virtually all clients that wish to access it do so by simply trusting the outputs from these two companies without any further verification.”

https://qz.com/2112965/web3-is-not-decentralized/

The market has already consolidated around two providers, Alechemy and Infura, that power the bulk of dApps on Ethereum, the most popular blockchain for software developers. Instead of trusting Ethereum, in other words, one has to trust Infura or Alchemy

https://qz.com/2112965/web3-is-not-decentralized/

ut that’s not the only way the crypto industry is consolidated. Crypto exchanges, where users can buy and sell currencies like Bitcoin and Ether, are dominated by Binance, which handles about three times as much trading volume as the next most popular exchange. MetaMask, owned by Infura parent company Consensys, has also become the dominant crypto wallet for Ethereum—that’s where you can store the NFTs you’ve bought. And OpenSea essentially controls the NFT market, processing 84% of the $2.7 billion spent on peer-to-peer NFT transactions in December 2021

https://qz.com/2112965/web3-is-not-decentralized/

Ethereum co-founder Vitalik Buterin acknowledged many of Marlinspike’s critiques. But he predicted that the future will be different. “It’s easier to build things the lazy centralized way, and it takes serious effort to ‘do it right,’” he said. In the future, Buterin said, It will become easier and cheaper for companies and users to run programs directly on the Ethereum blockchain, even if users gravitate toward easy-to-use centralized options.

https://qz.com/2112965/web3-is-not-decentralized/

websites and apps will be able to process information in a smart human-like way through technologies like machine learning (ML), Big Data, decentralized ledger technology (DLT), etc.

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-web-3-0?via.client.ignoreOtherConfiguration=1&via.client.openSidebar=1&via.external_link_mode=new-tab

originally called the semantic web by World Wide Web inventor Tim Berners-Lee, and was aimed at being a more autonomous, intelligent, and open internet.

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-web-3-0?via.client.ignoreOtherConfiguration=1&via.client.openSidebar=1&via.external_link_mode=new-tab

data will be interconnected in a decentralized way

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-web-3-0?via.client.ignoreOtherConfiguration=1&via.client.openSidebar=1&via.external_link_mode=new-tab

two cornerstones of Web 3.0 are semantic web and artificial intelligence (AI).

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-web-3-0?via.client.ignoreOtherConfiguration=1&via.client.openSidebar=1&via.external_link_mode=new-tab

Web 3.0 networks will operate through decentralized protocols

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-web-3-0?via.client.ignoreOtherConfiguration=1&via.client.openSidebar=1&via.external_link_mode=new-tab

make the internet more intelligent or process information with near-human-like intelligence through the power of AI systems that could run smart programs to assist users

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-web-3-0?via.client.ignoreOtherConfiguration=1&via.client.openSidebar=1&via.external_link_mode=new-tab

Tim Berners-Lee had said that the semantic web is meant to “automatically” interface with systems, people and home devices

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-web-3-0?via.client.ignoreOtherConfiguration=1&via.client.openSidebar=1&via.external_link_mode=new-tab

content creation and decision-making processes will involve both humans and machines

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-web-3-0?via.client.ignoreOtherConfiguration=1&via.client.openSidebar=1&via.external_link_mode=new-tab

Applying semantics in the Web would enable machines to decode meaning and emotions by analyzing data.

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-web-3-0?via.client.ignoreOtherConfiguration=1&via.client.openSidebar=1&via.external_link_mode=new-tab

can simply gather a large group of people and pay them to create positive reviews for its undeserving products

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-web-3-0?via.client.ignoreOtherConfiguration=1&via.client.openSidebar=1&via.external_link_mode=new-tab

internet needs AI to learn how to distinguish the genuine from the fake in order to provide reliable data

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-web-3-0?via.client.ignoreOtherConfiguration=1&via.client.openSidebar=1&via.external_link_mode=new-tab

new internet will provide a more personal and customized browsing experience,

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-web-3-0?via.client.ignoreOtherConfiguration=1&via.client.openSidebar=1&via.external_link_mode=new-tab

When you are not a white man, when you are straight, when you are the gender that you were assigned at birth, you kind of have a good time on the internet, generally. You live in a different world than the rest of us do.

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

the same is true for open source software, like anybody can go in and throw something against the wall and see if it sticks

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

if you look at any web framework, authors, unfortunately, you don’t see a lot of diversity there. It’s possible for anybody to contribute to open source, to contribute on StackOverflow, and things like that. But I know, for example, on Stack Overflow, a grand majority, maybe not a majority, a large number of people that I know, have fake names on Stack Overflow, because they want to hide the fact that they’re a woman.

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

And that’s why I always point to when I’m talking about like, the decentralized technology as a whole. I always point to AI and machine learning, because we thought, as humans are the biased ones, let’s let the computers make the decisions. And there will be no bias, everything will be perfect. But we keep seeing time and time again how this is just not true. Because if humans are building the technology, it’s inherently going to be carrying the bias of those humans who are building it.

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

But I can say, I think we had a similar enthusiasm and attitude toward AI and machine learning, thinking that this was a technology that could solve human problems that were like systemic, and just huge issues. And, like, let’s use AI, like, you know, solve the whole bias thing and all that kind of stuff. And it just ended up making the problem worse. And I feel like we might be doing the same thing with these decentralized technologies, right?

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

It’s a hype train. Any new technology gets on the hype train until it starts getting real life applications.

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

So I also admittedly don’t know a lot. But here’s how I’ve made some sense of it. And so it’s called Web 3.0, because there’s Web 2.0 and Web 1.0. The first, quote unquote, iteration of the Web was basically the read-only web where it was people just kind of putting up websites, probably mostly academics, because that’s what the web was first made for, being able to share documents and research and stuff. And then Web 2.0 is what pretty much everybody knows of today, where it’s kind of like, the interactive web where you you can actually use it, interact with it, chat on it, it’s very social, and stuff. And when you think about Web 2.0 and its flaws, you kind of think about, basically security and monetization

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

where it’s not like these big companies owning your data and stuff. You’re supposed to own your data, because it’s on the blockchain and decentralized and stuff, payments are built in so you don’t have to think about that kind of monetization aspect of your data being sold. And it’s robust in a way because it’s on the blockchain. It’s not relying on a company somewhere and their data to keep your information active

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

We’re talking about like totally redoing how the web works. Because of that, I think when people get on Twitter, or when they write these articles, or even when they start companies, preaching like this decentralized utopia, I think we deserve to add some realism into the mix. Because like with Web 2.0, right, I’m sure when that first came out, everybody thought it was going to be amazing, this was going to be great. And look what like the problems that we created are like huge and have had huge impacts on like, people like in general. And I don’t think that Web 3.0 is going to be any different. I don’t think that—like I hear decentralized and I hear like your identity, you’re like anonymous

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

in a country who were dispossessed, or under a dictatorship, can now use social media to organize. And this is like a new dawn for democracy, and citizens rights and citizens ability to organize. And now we’re a decade later, and people’s view of social media is the complete opposite. Like it’s destroying democracy, and it’s all feeding us disinformation, it’s making us all hate each other. So in that brief span of time, relatively speaking, it went from being this savior to this villain. And that I think often happens, because power becomes centralized in a certain area, and people are putting profit above other interests.

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

a lot of people are into like the crypto, the NFTs not because they think this is something that unbanked people are going to be able to use, and it’s going to change the world for the better. They’re into it for profit. And I think we should just leave with that. Like, if you’re gonna tell me that you’re into NFTs and you’re into crypto because it makes you money, fine. Like, that’s totally fine. But to preach this like savior mentality of like, “I want to change the world. And I want to make it a better place through like decentralized finances” or whatever. That’s usually like—you just mentioned Coinbase earlier, that’s usually not how it really pans out. Like, if you’re into it for the profit, fine.

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

think about the people who are disadvantaged in the world, and the categories of people who are more prone to harassment on the internet, and stuff. And unfortunately, they’re bad actors everywhere. And when I hear anonymous, I hear people getting away with stuff. And unfortunately, that’s very cynical, but that’s what I see

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

definitely excited about the possibility of decentralization. I think people have tried a decentralized social networks with things like Mastodon—

https://the-stack-overflow-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/web3-dao-crypto-blockchain-nft-society/transcript/

some random notes

Not your wallet, not your money. In a traditional bank, you don’t really own the money the banks says you have. Paying the guys that make the network is the cost of owning your own money. Hence, the price of the freedom promised by the web3 is the cost of the maintenance of the machines that compose the decentralized system.

To put fiat money in the blockchain, you still need to use some centralized system (exchange) that knows where you live. For example, in Nouvelle Calédonie, you cannot create an ethereum account using traditional exchanges.

web3 is the web of the IoT, of the connected devices etc. But those won’t be able to run a whole DHT of blockchain node. Hence they need to rely on some third party (centralization).

There are plenty of usages for which web3 is strange. When buying things, the seller knows what you bought, so there is no need to decentralize or make this anonymous.

Most web3 technologies (ipfs, blockchain) are not even web (as in based on http) technologies.

Web3 might be sufficiently decentralized.

web1 was the web of documents. Now, we want a web of people and documents.

In the past, we already could setup some keys and discuss with identity, trust and security in mind. People did not appear like they cared and willingly gave the powers to the nice looking interfaces of facebook, google etc. As long as the GAFAM have the manpower to make shiny interfaces, I don’t see how people would not want to give them the power.

To me, the supposedly new web3 mindset as been there since the beginning of computers, as well as intermediaries building a business in dealing with your data and people gladly using their solution as long as it fulfilled their needs with a comfortable interface.

I have always been against using tools that did not met me own my data. This lead me directly to open source thinking. A lot of projects like woob have showed that we have learned to live in a world where intrusive intermediaries deal with our data, without accepting it.

Hence, I agree with the idea that while this is an exiting era in terms of technologies, the anti-web3 mindset is more of a human stuff that, no matter the fancy technology you use, won’t go, unless we collectively decide to. Also, if we would have wanted to have a web3 mindset, neither web1 or web2 did prevent it.

It looks like those web3 convinced guys still use centralized tools like facebook, google, youtube instead of their “more decentralized” counterparts.

Un web dans lequel la décentralisation est centrale.

Related to DiD, each person has an identity in a peer-to-peer network and noone can change stuff belonging to someone else in this DiD network.

Notes pointant ici